{"municipality_id":"albany-county/bethlehem","meeting_id":"granicus-2440","meeting_date":"2026-04-07","text":"Thank you. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. We'll start. Okay. Okay. Leslie, I'm going to start if you guys are. Okay. Thank you. Good evening. Welcome to the April 7th meeting of the Bethel and Planning Board. These proceedings are being recorded and will be made available both live and recordings on the town website after the meeting. Let the record show we have a quorum and the meeting was called to order at 6.02 PM. As a reminder with all of our meetings, the public comment period is reserved for matters pending before the board and on tonight's agenda. The public is also able to submit comments not only in person, but through email and regular mail. These comments are then incorporated into the project file of pending planning board projects. Some general ground rules for public comments. Comments are limited to three to five minutes max. I'll remind you when you hit three minutes and at five, I'll ask you to step down for the next person to speak. Please keep your comments brief and related to impacts from the project. All right. So the first item is minutes approval for Tuesday, March 17th. Oh, sorry. First is public comment. Sorry. Are there any public comments on anything on the agenda for tonight? Come on. Good evening. Monica Sharp, Westchester Drive. My comment is about changing the power line that should be underground to overground. And this will be brief. The data I have here is from the fire department from California, where we all know it's always firing. I'm not going to tell all the fires, but I will tell you the fires that will cause it by power line. First one, camp. 153,346 hectares were destroyed. 18,804 structures destroyed. 85 people died. The second one is Thomas. 281, 893 hectares were destroyed. Structures, 1,063, 23 people died. Tubs, 36,807 hectares were destroyed, 5,646 structures, 22 people died. Ethan, still on investigation, but people know it was a power line. 14,021 hectares 9,418 structures 18 people died Valley 76,067 hectares 1,955 structures destroyed 4 people died loosely 96,949 hectares, 1,643 structures destroyed, three people died. Nuns, 54,382 hectares, 1,355 structures were destroyed, three people died. which 197,909 hectares, 1,650 structures were destroyed. Two people died. In Dixie, one of the most recent, 963,309 hectares were destroyed. 1,311 structures were destroyed. Fortunately, only one person died. These are all over the ground power lines. Here in the town of Bethlehem, I have an over ground power line that passes behind my property. Over ten years ago, I couldn't be here. A dead tree from my neighbor fell on four of my small trees and put the power line down. The power that feeds my home was yanked. The cables got water and I started to have a fire in the switchboard. But we all look. This was in the basement because we saw, we called the cops because we couldn't talk to the power company. You were at the three minutes just to let you know. Keep talking. Well, I have two more. And what happened is we were able to stop because they called and they cut the power. But I remember that back in that time there was a house and another tree fell in my street. people said, so the thing here is, the point I make here is, it happened in my house. It can happen there. And there is a situation worse because they have a small road to go in and out. You have all the wood area, and if it happens there, we are going to have another California here. So I urge this board to think I know we need development. Oh, it's supposed to. But we need safety for the citizens and the property in this town. A fire there can spread like spreads in California. So please do not approve this over-the-ground power line. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other public comments? No? Okay. So with no more comments, we'll move on to minutes approval for Tuesday, March 17th. Does any board member have a comment on the minutes? No, can I have a motion to approve? Second? Okay. So the minutes are approved. Move on. Oh, sorry. Those in favor, take vote. Yeah. Aye. All those in favor. Okay, the first item on the agenda is a discussion information item for McCormick's Hollow. It's an update on a proposed amendment to a previously approved subdivision to remove a condition of approval to bury electric lines on North Street and a reduction in the number of lots to three. So we'll start with Leslie and give us an overview. Okay, so this is the McCormick's Hollow Subdivision Section 2 on North Street. This is North Street here. It comes off of Hudson. and the Norman Skill Ravines Park, which is a town park, is located at the end of Wright Lane, which is back in here. This is Wright Lane. It comes off of North Street. It's a dead end. This is the dead end portion of North Street. It's on the agenda tonight for an update. This is an application to amend the previous approval of the subdivision, which was for nine lots eight residential lots and there was a large area in here that was to be preserved and as a conservation lot originally the request from the applicant was to amend the approval so they would not have to bury the electric power lines for the eight lots that were approved along north street since then the applicant has recently made additional requests to amend the previous approval they would like to continue to ask for the removal of the requirement to bury the electric power lines they want to convey six of the original nine lots to the town of bethlehem for a total of 23.7 acres as open space. They want to keep three of the original approved lots for development with no changes to their approved layout. The lots are located closest to the existing homes on North Street on the south side of Wright Lane, here, here, and here. they are also asking to be relieved of not having to improve North Street to town road standards as was in the original approval and as part of the conveyance they would be extinguishing the restrictive covenants on 13 acres that was once identified in the previous approval which was this conservation area here in order to convey to the town. The applicant's representatives are here tonight if you have questions or if you'd like them to come up and speak to the application. Do you want to come up and add anything? Good evening. My name is Mary Beth Slevin and I'm here on behalf of the applicant. Leslie did summarize what the amendments sought by the applicant are. This was originally a nine-lot subdivision. We are asking for that to be amended so that it would be effectively three lots left to be developed with the balance of the property to be conveyed to the town. Some of the documents that have been submitted, We provided the withdrawal of the restrictions for review by the town. We provided the abandonment of the subdivision with respect to the lots that would not be developed. And the application was amended to request the waiver just for the three lots that were at the western end of North Street. and to also to not have to improve North Street beyond where those three lots are. So that's the sum and substance of the request. Obviously, it's a significant reduction in impacts, reduction in the nature of the subdivision. We hope it's perceived as a benefit to the town for the almost 24-acre dedication that's proposed. and we're here to answer any questions that the board may have thank you I'm open up for board members any questions comments let's just start positioning myself here thank you have you researched sorry have you researched the current expense with National Grid now with only three residences to bury the utilities underground? No, because with the dedication that's proposed, the applicant felt that that was a significant enough benefit to provide to the town. So, So, you know, even though it could, because the difficulty is the adjacent area is overhead. So to go underground for these three lots doesn't provide any real significant benefit. Help me clarify something. The old neighborhood on North Street is above ground on poles. Yes. But phase one is underground. Correct. And then this is phase two and the previous planning board and you've heard me say this before and notwithstanding my appreciation for the applicants donation of land to the town to add to the existing Parkland area that's there and to be Increased in the future and I find that I respect it very much Yet, at the same time, a previous planning board and the town zoning, we have begun to require all electricity and utilities, et cetera, to be underground. And so I am personally, as a planning board member, not comfortable changing that part considering phase one is underground and this is only three more houses. I certainly would be willing to modify the North Street Road improvements, but I'm quite curious if the expenses would be significantly less with only three houses to continue the underground utilities. They would certainly be less, but now there's only three lots to develop. So whatever that cost is, it's only spread over three houses. So that's still a difficulty to impose on the properties, especially at a time that we're trying to look at affordability for new homes rather than putting on obligations that may not necessarily make a lot of difference. We're talking about an area that's three lots total, two of them on one side of the street, one on the other. it's a significant difference from the subdivision that was originally approved which was the nine lots so overall impacts are significantly different than what was originally approved when the prior planning board reviewed the project it was nine lots but only eight That's correct. Patty, I can maybe explain to board members too because I had it in the memo but I didn't say it out loud. Going back to where we left off as the board in reviewing this application goes back to January of 2025 where we had the discussion of the cost from National Grid of over 1.3 million dollars for the buried power lines. And what the board was concentrating on was asking the applicant to show the visual analysis of the impact on the street to the surrounding neighborhood. from so the difference between burying the lines and not burying the lines and what is the impact to the neighborhood the applicant did submit visuals there was one remaining piece that we were waiting for but the applicant has decided to to come back with this with this change and request to convey land to the town instead. But with the visual assessment, what the board had talked about at that January meeting was that the fact that there's above ground poles from Hudson all the way down towards down North Street to where phase one starts of McCormick's hollow. And those above ground poles, we learned from National Grid, would stay. And in fact, some of the poles would get higher and they would be carrying three-phase power. That's the reason why there's a $1.3 million expense to bury the powers because National Grid is requiring them to do three-phase power. So the overhead power lines come up out of the ground again, just at right lane and north street so three phase power would continue there as well so i think what the what the board was realizing at the january meeting was that there would be a significant impact to the existing homes on north street by having these larger poles more lines and in addition transformers those large transformers that you may see already around town that national grid is putting up in between the poles to support this three-phase power. So that's where we left off in January. My understanding was we were already looking at this, you know, allowing to not go underground because of what you're saying. And experience with National Grid is that's where most of the cost is coming. It's not necessarily the number of lots. It's burying the main three-phase. So I don't think the cost would come down much. Not a lot. Yeah, at all, because it's only the lines going out to the lots, which is minor. They've got to bury the main line, and that's where most of the costs come. So I think that's what we were looking at in January. And especially now, I wouldn't expect the cost to be much different and to have it spread out by only three lots. And my understanding is it comes back above ground after it's under, right? That's right. All the poles that are existing above ground would stay. Right. So this is an area where there's no, there's already most of this area has above ground lines. So in my opinion, it's not an impact to that area. And adding three-phase power would make them higher with the addition of transformers. Right, which is happening either way. So National Grid did tell us that in the future they may decide to bring three-phase down this road, and so their poles may get higher and there may be transformers. Right. Right. But that's not necessarily the case just for these three lots. No, correct. We're saying that may happen in the future, right? Right. And the original eight lots, National Grid told us, could be serviced by the existing above-ground poles. Right. And, in fact, they told us that if they were buried, the buried section of Phase 1 would have to come above ground. because when they're running three phase lines, they can't run them above ground and then go below ground and then come back up again. They told us they would bring up the power that's already buried in phase one and make it continuous three line. So they were going to put that above ground anyway? Yeah. So to me, this is not an area where there's none. It's not a visual impact. They're already making these changes, And I think it's very important to add the conveyance of the open space, that that's an important value for the town and our comp plan. Thank you for the clarification. Yeah. And I think it's important just to note that conveyance, and in particular that, you know, I don't, especially for three lots, I don't think going underground has any impact, positive impact to this neighborhood necessarily. But go ahead, Brad. So I think you've answered part of the question I had regarding the three lats being, I guess they're closer right, so they're not very, they're actually close to existing power lines that are above ground. Now, what I'd like to see, can you show me where these three lats would be in comparison to where phase one is, the section that's underground? I don't think it was clear. So the Phase 1 homes of McCormick's Hollow are located here. Right. So the above-ground poles are located in this area along Wright Lane. If you were to drive out there today, you would see the poles here. There's at least three of them. Right. Very good. And the above ground poles end for those homes that are located on North Street between Hudson and the newer homes that were part of Section 1. The above ground poles end at, I think, almost the last house before Section 1 starts. Okay, very good. The second question, how about the location? You mentioned that the property to be donated to the town is adjacent, is the right adjacent to properties that the town is considered acquiring. And the right adjacent, is it physically bordering the land, or is it just a lot in between? It wasn't clear to me. it's physically bordering it would be at the end of north yeah these are the three homes and this is Wright Lane so everything on the north side of Wright Lane would become town owned property this area as well so both west and east sides of North Street north of Wright Lane. The town is in contract to purchase the property at the end of North Street. So all of this land would be owned by the town. And the applicant is willing to convey their lands that they own right here. And then Norman Skilled Ravines Park is at the end of Wright Lane and extends to this portion of right lane. And so the applicant is willing to convey a portion of his property, which is located on this side as well. So all of this would be continuous town owned property. It's all connected. Very good. Thanks for the clarification. It was really clear earlier. So from my perspective, Having seen this and just the three properties to be developed, I would support, I would have no objection to, you know, I mean, allowing for the above ground just based on the location and the fact that the rest of the property to be, you know, conveyed to the town is actually would continue a very large part of, you know, properties that are currently under consideration to be acquired. by the town and portion that we already own. So I'm in for support of it. Thank you, Ra. Do you have any? Patty, you want to add something? I have a question for Mark regarding the zoning law and the underground developments. And if a new application comes in and they present cost, this is a precedent we're setting, and they want us to allow them, as they were when the original development at the end of North, which isn't there anymore, and we said they would have to bury the utilities. What kind of a precedent, if we overrule the planning board and go against the zoning law, are we setting? Well, number one, we're not going against the zoning law. These are lines within the right-of-way. Our code applies to roads and utilities inside a subdivision. so town future town-owned roads things of that nature this is an accommodation the Planning Board was seeking from the developer outside of the property that they own to get that line put underground so that would be the line serving so those are different so we're not in a situation where we're violating the zoning code and as a matter of precedent I think there's a lot of factors that have to go into whether or not and what type of precedent you're actually setting. Here we have a situation where by burying the lines in this particular area it could actually cause impacts that weren't originally associated with the request or understood when the request was made. So when the first decision was to go underground no one knew that it was going to turn that line into a three phase line, raise all the other power lines and look to that, go to that extent. Had that information been known at the time the decision may have been different but given the fact that there's new facts that have come to light that precedent would be limited to the situation where these facts came to light and were determined now for the future board going forward we always have the option to say if we're going to consider something along those lines to understand to a greater level level of detail what the costs are going to be what the national grid designs are going to be that information is often very difficult difficult to get from National Grid because they don't do it until they perform a site visit that site visit occurs after you get your approvals and and move forward to a building and construction phase where their construction is then required so they build those lines the developer does not build those lines the developer just pays for those lines so that's a very that those facts are all important in establishing what type of precedent would be. It's not just a blanket, oh, we overruled it. We'll do that every single time we so choose. You have to look at the facts of each circumstance. Mark, thank you. That was very helpful. Thank you. Do you have any comments or questions? No, I just want to say, you know, it seems like a reasonable request based on, you know, some of the things that other folks have mentioned. I think Mark's clarification is. Thank you. All right, so this is just discussion information, right? So it sounds like we're good with going ahead with the amendment. Yeah, they got some engineering comments recently that we'll want to see them address on the map, and then we'll bring it back to the board. Okay, and again, I think this is great, especially with the lands being in between. And I also have a wetland question, not related to this. Is now okay time for you? Okay, great. I saw in your EAF that most it looks like there are ACOE wetlands. Some areas, yes. And are you, have you written or checked with DEC to look at the additional wetlands as the acreage is different in different areas on it? DEC doesn't have new jurisdiction if that's what you're asking. I'm sorry? DEC doesn't have new jurisdiction if that's what you're asking and in the past DEC did not have jurisdiction. Okay so you clear that these are all Army Corps of Engineers. Correct. Patty I would concur with that the new regulations exempt projects that have a negative declaration prior to the effective date. If you had a negative deck or site plan approval your grandfather didn't under the old rules so they had and again this points out that unique situation yeah yeah it's a few neg deckers right thank you thank you okay so I think we're good moving forward okay thank you thank you very much appreciate your time thanks nope thank you mark okay the next item is 333 Delraff, initial presentation and possible action on site plan amendment 143A5 for proposed second floor deck and use of a portion of the second floor and an existing commercial building for opposed two story restaurant, site plan amendment application Leslie So this is an application from Peter Tryon, who owns 333 Delaware Avenue in Del Mar. This is a site plan amendment application. We have it on the agenda as both an initial presentation and for the board to possibly take action on the approval tonight. This is actually an application that the board had previously seen from the applicant. He's asking to convert a portion of the second floor of 333 Delaware Avenue to restaurant space. there'll be a restaurant on the first floor and to add a second story open deck so I gave you kind of the history of the property in the board's previous reviews you most recently approved the patio on the first floor which was extended out of the from the existing building and that was in association with the proposed restaurant tenant that the applicant was working on. When the board previously approved the second floor use for the restaurant space and the deck, the plans were never stamped because the applicant decided not to go through with the project. So basically, this application is just bringing that same application back. so he is asking to use that second floor for the restaurant which will also be located on the first floor they're gonna have the patio which is already built on the first floor and then he would like to add the second story deck and then all of the existing or all of the previously approved site conditions that were approved with that site plan are still being worked on so he has landscaping still to put in and some other items. And all of those are shown on this plan as well, but they still stand from the previous approval of the patio addition. So the applicant's engineer is here tonight. He can answer your questions or if you'd like him to just kind of explain what they are doing, he can do that too. Good evening. Brett Steenberg, Steinberg Consulting Engineering. Thank you Leslie. Actually your synopsis was very good and actually brought me up to date too because we've gone back and forth a couple of times with this project. Mr. Tryon initially when we first came in with this application had pretty much what you see on the site there which was the patio with the second floor deck. As they were going through the process they ran into some possible issues with water lines and sprinklers and occupancy ratings and the Tipsy Moose, which I don't know if any of you have frequented, became very interested in the site. I think he was looking at a different style restaurant at the time and the patio space was going to be adequate. But when the Tipsy Moose got involved, they really liked the idea of having the two-story restaurant, having a restaurant with lots of parking, which this site does, which a lot of the struggle with some of their other sites to get parking. and that second floor deck and open space. People are enjoying the outdoor dining more and more in this area. Granted, we get about four months where we can do it, but when people want to do it, they really do enjoy it. So the architect worked with the occupancy ratings and the number of seats with the tipsy moose to come up with a plan where we could come back to this and revisit this outdoor deck. As Leslie stated, the site plan is essentially the same as what was originally approved. And with all the conditions as far as the landscaping and that type of stuff, restriping the parking lot, making sure they get the adequate accessible spaces and signage and that type of stuff in there. Okay, thank you. So this essentially goes back to the way we had originally, right? So how does it work procedurally? Procedurally, we are going to do, or you have the opportunity to vote on the site plan amendment, and it's reflecting this new site plan and elevation drawing here, and here's the site plan. The amendment just gets withdrawn, and they took it away? The previous one, it has already expired. So we would be starting with a new site plan amendment approval that would be voted on if you wanted to. Okay. Does anybody have any comments or questions, Brad? Just for clarification, yeah, I do recall this project, and I'm going to try to keep it simple. So it was approved initially for both the upper floor and the ground floor. then I think sometime in between you came back and asked for it to be modified because you're only going to work on the first floor now you're going back to the original? Is that basically what you're asking? Yes, that is correct. Okay, all right, thank you. Was there anything outstanding from that original? I think we were at approval or remind me on the first. So on the first time they came around with the second floor restaurant on the outside deck you went ahead and approved it okay but we never stamped the plans and that expired then they came back and asked to get an approval just for the first floor patio and first floor there was no outstanding issues originally that we needed to resolve yeah no you went ahead and approved it you guys have any Patty I'm extremely familiar with this particular location So I have some questions, but I'm not sure. I wish Mark was still here, but Leslie, you'll be able to direct me. Am I able to ask what the second floor? I didn't see it in any of the information. Changing it back to adding that again, the occupancy difference, the number, it adds to the usability of that location. I know occupancy is more of a code. The allowable occupancy from before to now for the two? So the plans have been reviewed by the building department, and it meets code, so we wouldn't bring it to the board. I suspected that was a building department issue, so I'll try to reframe my focus. If you look at the area where the snow is supposed to be plowed and the amount of other activity, now this restaurant is also, this applicant, it doesn't matter what it is. It's got longer hours. But the greatest activity of a lot of the other occupants along the strip and the residents that live on the second floor. Excuse me a second. Sorry about that. Evenings. And so it looks like the traffic trying to pull in and out. Our engineer isn't here, but the line of sight is quite tight where that patio comes out. And seeing traffic pulling in and traffic trying to pull out to head in either direction. And then if you look in the back of the far end of the property towards the woods, which is where the snow was supposed to be plowed before and now, and it was actually done in the front all year, which made egress and ingress quite difficult going in and out of that area. So I want to talk about the manageability because 77 spots, which is all we can require, correct, for parking, were already reduced without the restaurant, causing inflow and exit issues. And then the snow was right in the front. There may have also been in the back, in the rear of the L wing of the apartments. but I want everybody that is there pre-existing in the new business to have it work and there is not a lot of parking on Delaware Avenue in that area even though I support the Hamlet activity, I support the walkability, I support growth and new restaurants, but also the existing customers and clients. So I'm just really curious how we see this working from your engineering perspective. You know, we evaluated this actually for when we originally looked at the two-story, we had a much higher occupancy rating than what we're proposing as part of this. We reduced the seats quite a bit, and that was in order to get the occupancy rating so that it didn't require sprinklers, which would have required a new water line. Going back to the initial comment with regards to the construction of the deck, The deck would not impede the site distances by the time you get up to the intersections at all. And, you know, you've got a whole sidewalk and terrace there. If anything's going to impede the site distances, it would be the pull-off parking area, which the cursor is right there with vehicles parked there. But that's a function of Delaware Avenue and the parking along Delaware Avenue, which I'm sure was studied when those parking spaces were constructed, those three parking spaces, parallel spaces, which are right in front of the site. We can certainly talk to the applicant about making sure that the snow banks are cleared to the maximum extent practical so that there is adequate site distance for ingress and egress. Again, a lot of that up front regarding the site distance is a function of Delaware Avenue and the plows and just trying to manage that and your existing snow banks. But we can instruct them that they really do need to push it further back if they need to or haul it away if necessary to make sure that there is adequate ingress and egress out of the site. But from a parking standpoint with the overflow and the minimal uses that are in there now, We've gone through that a couple of times with planning staff, and everybody feels that there's adequate parking for the site and the development on this site. Yeah, I would say once the, so you can see the landscaping is planned to go in this area and here as well. So once the landscaping is finished next year during the winter, obviously that's a maintenance issue with the snow plow and where the snow's put. but with the landscaping there they unlikely to go there yeah it'll be unlikely and and certainly you know that's if it is an issue I'll have the building inspector go out and just remind them that they need to plow the site as per the site plan approval so the snow storage is at the rear and if they don't have enough room they're required to take it off site I also want to just clarify that the town zoning law does not require existing this is in the located in the Delaware Avenue Hamlet overlay zone which does not require additional parking so the applicant is not required to provide additional parking due to their location in the overlay so thank you Leslie, I believe I said that and I did read it, but I did want to talk about the usability of the location, but I understand what the it's 77 is what's required. Thank you, Leslie. And, uh, again, just to reiterate, I'm sure the snow storage was reviewed by engineering and then we do see it building inspection, the building inspector, or the enforcement would. Right. And, yeah, I also want to point out the engineering reviewed it. There is no identified site distance issues on Dollar Avenue. Yeah, so just not to belabor the point, but I assume they're managing the snow currently, right? Are they using parking spots to store snow now or, you know? I don't know. I know with this large vacant space, they've had kind of a lot of open space to plow the snow and being that you know they're not dealing with a tenant who's saying hey listen we are patrons don't have someplace to to you know to park you they may be running into an issue where their snowplow guy is pulling it there and then they're just leaving it I think actually once the tenant gets in there and they're you know no no tenant is going to want to have their their patrons drive away to the restaurant down the street because they couldn't find a place to park so they're going to want to make sure that that is adequately cleared in accordance with the site plans is it possible to ask I think we've done this with some other applications during the hours of whatever to make some of the spots identified for some of the other businesses as well because the restaurant will be open longer and during business hours because I think I read that you're going to be remarked and doing that to identify some of the parking spots for the other I think there's like five businesses. The landlords usually take care of that right? Yeah and again given the significant mixture of uses on the site you know you do get peak times I mean if jujitsu's in and it happens to be probably not likely when the restaurants at its peak business or the bicycle shop, which takes up a ton of space but doesn't generate a lot of parking, but we've got it shown in the table. This site really does manage itself well through the various uses in the parking. Usually it's in their lease that they're allowed parking, so if they start to have a problem, the landlord has to start to designate spots. So that's usually handled by the landlord through the leases. Yeah, the town has not gotten involved in private property management like that. I think I'd also like to add that, again, as Leslie said, in the Hamlet there's no parking requirement. There's the understanding, too, that it's likely that you'll have a significant portion, I'm not trying anyway, the patrons would be walking or maybe parking over, I mean, a little distance, church or whatever, you're parking in the neighborhood. So I don't really see that as a problem. And as you said, if there's a problem that develops later, that can be addressed. Also, I was thinking that the, I think Leslie, you could help clarify this. The town is in the process of trying to get the speed limit and the town reduced to 30 miles. Would that apply to Delaware Avenue, even though it's in the Hamlet as a state road, essentially? No, Delaware Avenue is under jurisdiction of New York State DOT. So the speed reduction that the town is planning is on local streets to 25, but it would not include Delaware. I think it's only 30 here, right? I think it is. This part's only 30 because it's in the downtown. You're right. Yeah, it's not far down. Yeah. Okay. Anything else? No? Okay. All right. So we have to take a vote on this. So this is an action to. Yeah, you do have the opportunity to vote on the approval tonight if you want to. So I provided the approval docket, SPA 143A5, and it's for a site plan amendment approval. Okay, so can I get a motion and second on approval of the site plan amendment, SPA 143A5, for a proposed site plan amendment? So moved. So moved by Rad. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay, so it passes. Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate your time this evening and look forward to being down here. Mr. Gianni, you didn't ask anyone opposed. Oh, is anyone opposed? I'm sorry, Patty. Okay. So Patty opposed, so three in favor, one opposed. So motion passes. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Leslie, thank you. Okay. All right. Next is new business. Any new business? No. No new business. Okay. So I need a motion to adjourn. I moved. Okay. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you. All right, Leslie. One second. Thank you. 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